GRRL024: Streak of bad luck and sneaking off to play drums, with Stefanie of Caustic Casanova

Stefanie joined me online after Caustic Casanova’s 2016 tour to talk about their almost-comical bad luck streak during the first week of their tour, some tour tips, a bit about their record label Retro Futurist, and the difficult time and plain hard work she put in to recover from breaking *both* her wrists. I also bust out my trumpet playing story again, but this time to learn about Stefanie’s slight subterfuge when it came to finally playing the drums in high school.

Based in Washington D.C., Caustic Casanova has been described as “heavy metal B-52s” and other crossovers that usually involve the words “hard”, “heavy”, and “psychedelic.” They’ll be recording a new album starting in April, before going on yet another summer tour, so keep an eye out for tour dates. You do NOT want to miss them!


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Show Notes

  • Caustic Casanova – “Thundersnow”
  • Are genres so important nowadays?
  • Things Stefanie learned from their 2016 tour
    • Plan for traffic – Giving themselves a 2hr buffer
    • More off-days to recoup and for equipment malfunctions
    • Coming across amp trouble and finding a savior in St. Louis at Acme Guitars
  • Irata – “Lion Slayer” (Website)
  • Touring – how and why
  • How did the tour work out financially? Not quite breaking even
    • Stefanie wants to emphasize how totally do-able touring is for any band that’s around Caustic Casanova’s level
  • Emily Danger – “Peace Arch” (Website)
  • Retro Futurist Records – Savannah, Georgia label – owned by the folks of Kylesa who Caustic Casanova toured with before being asked to join the label
  • Breaking bones – delays in putting out Breaks
    • Surgery and moving in with parents
    • Loss of independence, mental health, and becoming motivated to kick ass at physical therapy
  • Holly Hunt – “Meano”
  • Learning trumpet because mom didn’t want her play the drums
    • “But my heart’s always belonged to the drums.”
    • Sneaking off to find a drum kit
  • Heavy music dominated by men, drumming especially, but there are a lot of girl drummers out there


BONUS CLIP: A sacrifice had been made… with Stefanie of Caustic Casanova

When Washington DC band Caustic Casanova started their summer 2016 tour, they kept hitting bad luck after bad luck. It finally turned around, but at what cost?!

Listen to this deleted, bonus clip below! You can hear the rest of the interview with Stefanie Zaenker, along with her great playlist, tomorrow afternoon.

Download at Libsyn.

Interlude 004: trans-exclusion at the women’s march, podcast recs, and poetry from Felicia Williams

Interlude 004 is all about inclusivity/exclusivity: from podcasts that interview with inclusivity in mind to the global women’s march in January. Plus, “Nvr Pass” by previous Grrl on Grrl guest Emma with her band She/Her/Hers, and the poem “A Kind of Dying” by San Diego poet Felicia Williams.

Wanna submit your poetry and flash fiction to be featured in an Interlude episode? Shoot me an email! 

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Listen Here

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Links & Notes

  • She/Her/Hers – “Nvr Pass”
  • Birthday Loon Studios by Hailey Wojcik – you can hear some more about Hailey’s stop motion animation work on her episode here
    • So much detail. So much work.
    • Facebook
    • All her videos on Vimeo
  • Angry Grrrl Music of the Indie Rock Persuasion by Amanda Starling – a podcast highlighting women, femmes, LGBTQ, and minority movements in the punk rock & indie rock scenes
  • Sooo Many White Guys
    • “Join comedian Phoebe Robinson as she talks to performers, musicians, authors and artists who are killing it in their fields. Oh, and none of them are white dudes! Whew.”
    • Episode 17 with Margaret Cho – “Phoebe and Margaret Cho Hope They Die Alone”

Women’s March / Exclusion of Trans Voices

Felicia Williams


Thank you to Felicia Williams, Asher Mendel, Emma of She/Her/Hers, and Polish for the use of their song “Drive.”