Welcome to Grrl on Grrl episode 32, featuring Lisa Mungo of metal band He Whose Ox is Gored and hardcore band Fucked and Bound.
I met with Lisa in 2016 when He Whose Ox is Gored played in San Diego, and we recorded this interview in February after the first women’s march… yes, it’s taken me a whole year to put this out. Yiiiikes.
Since the interview, Lisa’s other band–who we talk about but not name in this episode–Fucked and Bound, announced the release of their first album Suffrage. You can pre-order (or buy, depending on when you see this) the album via Atomic Action Records. They start shipping February 16, 2018.
We also talk about Lisa’s expectations moving to Seattle and what she ultimately found there, how the city can foster the adventures of a newer band who’s still learning the ropes, and then a bit on her responsibility as a fellow woman to speak against misogyny while also balancing the need to ignore it at times.
Thanks so much to Lisa for chatting with me over Skype and for being my inspiration to stop smoking!
- Quitting smoking and changes in Lisa’s screaming voice because of it
- The start of He Whose Ox is Gored, 7 (8?) years ago
- Meeting at Guitar Center, finding other folks who are just as serious about music as she is
- Buying a synth and inviting herself into the band
- Moving to Seattle – what were her expectations, and were those expectations met?
- Feeling lucky finding the DIY scene there
- The need for smaller venues for new and emerging bands
- A safe space to learn how to be a band
- Seattle has a cooperative, supportive underground music scene
- “I fucking love Seattle!”
- Will Seattle be able to “contain” He Whose Ox is Gored?
- Every band has a different goal and/or path, dependent on lifestyle.
- The possibility of over-playing a city or market; does that apply to younger bands too?
- What He Whose Ox is Gored did when they were a younger band–“it’s because they were taking a leak somewhere and they saw our name!”
- Advice and mistakes of being a younger band
- “Do whatever it takes.” Not being afraid to try new things
- Using mistakes and failure to grow as a band
- Song clip: Fucked and Bound’s “00FUXX”
- Talking about her new hardcore band, Fucked and Bound
- New record unreleased at time of the interview, but can be ordered via Atomic Action Records
- How does Lisa have the time for everything?
- Music as her main focus
- Making the switch to not drinking/not partying a few years back so she can focus on her projects
- Game of Thrones
- She reiterates, “I do watch a lot of Game of Thrones.”
- DIY merch creation
- The Vera Project – take a class and then can use their screenprinting lab
- We both grouse about screenprinting and other DIY travails
- The pride of making and selling their own merchandise
- Can the metal (or more generally the music) scene be more inclusive? If you want to hear Sarah from Spotlights’ answer to that, head to her episode here.
- Seattle can feel like an inclusive bubble.
- Deciding to “hit the ignore button” vs speaking out against microaggressions (mansplaining, inappropriate questions, etc.) on tour
- Responsibility to other women to speak up
- Taking it night by night and/or situation by situation
- Feeling hopeless in this current political climate
- Solidarity, speaking out, not giving up
- Using our anger to “hit the pavement”
- Song clip: He Whose Ox is Gored’s “Machina“