GRRL008: identity, label, and goals featuring multi-instrumentalist and songwriter Lauren DeRose

Grrl on Grrl is back with episode 8, featuring San Diego musician Lauren DeRose. We talk a lot about feminism, identity, and labels, along with the usual music topics about community and different goals for different musicians. Lauren also picked a few great songs for you to listen to, so I hope you enjoy!

Grrl on Grrl will be back on January 10, 2016.

What do you guys think about the size of this and the last episode? I’m trying to tighten up the editing of the interviews so they are more manageable, especially for those of you listening on your commute! Please let me know what you think!

And please, if you liked this episode, rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

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Download here. [~38min, 46MB]

Shownotes

  • [1:15] Lauren talks about herself and her solo project, LDR
  • [4:20] Changing musical goals as she grows
    • “You have to be selfish” if you want to get things done in music. Or say fuck it and do it for fun.
  • [8:00] Changes in the San Diego music scene before and after. Lauren’s take? “The community has changed for the better.”
  • [9:45] Sleeping Ghosts – Colors in Eyes
  • [13:45] Being a “lesbian with a guitar” before being just a musician
    • Not allowing others to take your ability to be yourself or create the music you want to
  • [18:30] Gloomsday – Vacation
  • [22:50] Women cutting down other women… don’t do it!
    • Socialized femininity, self-esteem issues, and not being taken seriously for being pretty
  • [24:20] Objectification of women in the media
    • June bitches about Mother Earth Brewing’s advertising
    • We bitch about gendered beer choices
  • [26:04] “When you see injustices, it’s your duty to tell them what’s up.”
    • Combating (white/male/etc) privilege, being viewed as “sensitive”
  • [27:00] Short updates on previous guests: Bakkuda‘s recent show and Fun While You Wait‘s new website
  • [28:00] June’s pet peeve: When people pick apart her ideas and privileges without picking apart their own privilege
    • We’re all learning and none of us are perfect.
  • [30:00] “What’s a good feminist?”
    • Feminism busting down gender expectations for both men and women
    • Hypermasculinity
    • Under-diagnosis of depression and mental illness in men
  • [32:25] MC Flow – Incredible
    • Keep an eye out for her upcoming Hannukah song release!

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Lauren for taking the time to speak with me.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Gary Hankins for making the episode sound good.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL007: unique art & music in Los Angeles featuring Lauren Davis of Blackberry Tongues

Los Angeles band Blackberry Tongues traveled to San Diego this past summer where they proceeded to blow my mind with their ethereal music. From that night, I kept in contact with Lauren and I finally got the chance to interview her! In this episode, she teaches me what microtonal music is, the supportive and unique art and music scene in Los Angeles, and we play some positively different music than what has been on the podcast before.

We also discuss whether it’s better for a band or artist to play more often or occasionally in their local music scene. What do you think? Do you risk oversaturating or tiring out your fans? Or will they lose interest if you don’t play often? Leave a comment and tell us what you think!

You can buy Blackberry Tongues’ album We Are Open Mouths and follow them on Instagram.

And please, if you liked this episode, rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

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Download here. [~41 mins, 50MB]

Shownotes

  • [1:30] Blackberry Tongues “Circular”
  • [10:30] Considering the length of their songs with seemingly different musical “movements”, what is their songwriting process like? How do they create cohesion?
  • [15:15] Lauren talks about another project she’s involved in called Ilevens, which she describes as dancey microtonal music. June also learns what microtonal means.
  • [18:45] Odeya Nini “Tunnels”
  • [24:00] Lauren explaining why she picked Odeya Nini to feature
  • [26:00] Lauren explains Madeline Spooner and appreciating “niche and unusual music” that can still be marketable
    • We digress a bit into Dirty Projectors. “People need to be warmed up.”
  • [29:00] June goes off about pop punk dialects, as described in this article about Blink-182
  • [31:00] Madeline Spooner “Simple as Lavender” (Facebook)
  • [34:00] Recording a demo to send to record labels
  • [36:00] What’s the Los Angeles music scene like?
    • Hopscotch opera: an opera that takes place in CARS. “Shit like THAT is going on LA.”

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Lauren for taking the time to speak with me.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp and look out for the upcoming new album Outside the Color Wheel; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Gary Hankins for making the episode sound good.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL006: songwriting discipline despite insecurities and a live performance featuring singer-songwriter Erin Bower

For the latest episode, San Diego singer-songwriter Erin Bower sat with me in my bedroom where we indulged in sake and chatted about our insecurities and tips on playing live. This episode is especially unique because we tried a different format. Instead of featuring songs from other artists, I got a chance to record Erin’s live set at local bar and venue Sycamore Den, so you’ll be getting to hear a few of her songs interspersed throughout the interview.

If you can’t get enough of Erin, you can travel to her Bandcamp to listen to some older songs.

And please, if you liked this episode, rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

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Download here [~53 mins, 61MB]

Shownotes

  • [3:00] The process of writing lyrics and the insecurities that come with it
  • [5:45] Erin’s live set: “I Have a Lover”
  • [9:00] Erin’s live set: an old standard, “Make me Down a Pallet on Your Floor”
  • [12:30] Bad Behaviors – Erin’s demo EP, 4 songs
    • Focusing on psychology, self-reflection, and mental health
  • [15:00] Challenging ourselves and practicing self-discipline – “the shitty songs are inside me”
    • Erin wrote 26 songs in 26 weeks, inspired by Geoff Gouveia
    • June wrote 29 minutes of material for NaSoAlMo
    • Ira Glass quote: “For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you.”
  • [20:30] Going back to old songs and deciding if she likes them
  • [22:30] Her old band Soda Pants
  • [27:30] Erin’s live set: Electric Blood
  • [30:45] Playing in a band vs. playing solo
  • [34:30] Tips for playing live
  • [37:15] Erin’s live set: “Enough”
  • [42:00] Three favorite San Diego musicians
    • Creature and the Woods
      • Shelby as Erin’s vocal teacher
      • “If I go to a show, I can’t hold back.”
    • Al Howard 
    • Mike Pope/Danica Molenaar (also playing with Erin in a newly minted band called Holy!)
  • [44:30] Do vocal lessons help?
  • [48:00] Erin’s live set: “Grateful”

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Lori.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Gary Hankins for making the episode sound good.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL005: extra scrutiny on stage, riot grrrl, and festivals featuring Lori Sokolowski of Gloomsday

For episode 5, Lori and I got together in her living room to chat about the history of her earlier bands, being a woman on stage and being extra scrutinized because of it, and other topics about women in the music industry.

She’s a badass drummer for the two-piece band Gloomsday that she plays in with her boyfriend Justin and has always played bass and guitar in several other bands including Ladyparts and the Rosalyns–the latter got to play with The Julie Ruin and other rad women musicians at the Orange County festival Burger-a-go-go.

You can follow Gloomsday on Facebook and listen to some of their tracks on their Bandcamp.

If you liked this episode, please rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

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Download here [~60mins, ~58MB]

Shownotes

  • [3:30] Burger-a-go-go is a woman oriented music festival put on by Burger Records in Orange County, California. This year, the headliners were The Julie Ruin, Cat Power, and Kate Nash. AND Lori’s band The Rosalyns played as well!
  • [13:30] Fleetwood Mac controversy: Are you afraid you’ll get into the same situation?
  • [17:30] Flaggs – “Cheap Life”
  • [22:30] What the fuck is Shoegaze?
  • [27:30] A sneak peek into future guest Emma of She/Her/Hers
  • [30:00] Lori’s experiences as a woman on stage and finding musical role models when growing up
  • [37:00] Sexualization of women in pop music
  • [40:00] JJCNV – “Monsoon Years”
  • [45:00] A frustrating story from the end of the most recent Gloomsday tour
  • [48:00] News about a previous band Ladyparts, an all-woman punk band
  • [52:00] Wild Honey – “Stoned” 

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Lori.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Gary Hankins for filling in for Lety Beers–who is going on a European tour with her band The Little Richards–and doing a way more awesome job than I could have done.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL004: producing at home and music as a full-time job featuring Alex Capella of Bakkuda

Alex Capella of Bakkuda joins me for Grrl on Grrl’s fourth episode! Bakkuda is a solo synth project, self-produced right from her bedroom.

We talk about how her music is a full-time job, taking music classes (both good and bad), and the trendiness of vinyl and cassette.

You can check out the Bakkuda website for links to all her social media, including Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Personally, I follow her Twitter and Instagram, both of which are a mix of personal and project news. I highly recommend following her!

If you liked this episode, please rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

I hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening!

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Download Grrl on Grrl episode four [~52MB 54 mins]

Show Notes

  • [2:00] The meaning behind the name Bakkuda
  • [4:00] The timeline between her EP releases and the balance of making music and promoting it
  • [7:00] Bakkuda – Skills
  • [15:50] Music as a full-time job
  • [18:00] Is there a physical release coming soon? And “boring” music business stuff.
    • Is vinyl and cassette just a trend?
  • [20:00] Netta – Momma Knows Best
  • [27:30] Learning music production
    • Dealing with bad teachers
  • [34:30] I go into a tangent about San Diego band Fistfights with Wolves
  • [35:30] Purity Ring – Sea Castle
  • [40:00] Seeing more women musicians self-producing/doing-it-themselves
  • [42:00] Musical inspiration: Lorde, FKA Twigs, Kanye West
  • [45:00] Holiday Mountain – My Body
    • Body positive message
    • Energetic live show and great stage presence

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Alex for agreeing to be uncomfortable in a stool and hot bedroom.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Gary Hankins for filling in for Lety Beers–who is going on a European tour with her band The Little Richards–and doing a way more awesome job than I could have done.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL003: media whitewashing and the New York music scene featuring Nina Herrera Merkur of My Own Confusion

About the Episode

For episode 3, Nina of the bicoastal punk band My Own Confusion joined me over Skype to talk about the perils of gentrification, the difficulty of promoting shows in New York City, and whitewashing in the media.

Thank you all in advance for sticking through some of the spotty sections of the interview. Unfortunately, a poor Internet connection on either or both ends of a Skype call definitely creates some turbulence throughout the episode! I tried to clear it up as best as possible before sending the audio over to Lety, so… what I’m trying to say is, blame her if it still sounds bad. (Lety, I love you and thank you!)

You can check out My Own Confusion on their Facebook, Tumblr, and listen to three of their tracks on Bandcamp.

If you liked this episode, please rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

I hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening!

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Show Notes

  • [2:10] Songwriting process
  • [3:50] My Own Confusion – “Truth Be Told” (Bandcamp)
  • [8:15] Sub/Mission in San Francisco
  • [9:00] Nina’s involvement in the Queens music scene and learning about bands
  • [9:40] Tall Boys – A defunct band of tall boys playing music
  • [11:30] Is it true that the NYC music scene is unsupportive of each other?
  • [13:25] The logistics of having two bands for the same project
  • [15:25] Our thoughts on Pay-to-play (tl;dr It’s bullshit)
  • [22:00] Month-related names and Japanese onomatopoeia
  • [27:40] Freya Wilcox & The Howl – “Bury Me” (Bandcamp)
  • [38:00] Making snacks in a hot car
  • [39:40] Gentrification in San Francisco and New York
  • [41:45] White washing in the media, including Avatar: The Last Airbender
  • [44:45] “Hard to find yourself in the media” as Asian Americans and Latinas
  • [50:00] The beauty of The Room and Rocky Horror Picture Show
  • [51:30] Cutters – “Young Gods” (Bandcamp)

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Nina for joining me early on in the recording process. (She was guest #2, although I decided to release her interview third.)

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Lety Beers for her help with audio editing and knowledge.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL002: the art of schmoozing and sass featuring Paloma Ceballos of Cochinas Locas

About the Episode

Paloma Ceballos writes, sings, and plays guitar for San Diego punk band Cochinas Locas. The trio of girls have been described as “unexpectedly good” (you’ll hear more about that in the interview). With an energetic set and sassy attitude, their shows are always lively. In this episode, Paloma and I talk about our respective mothers’ expectations of what good girls grow up to be, learning the necessary art of schmoozing and social media… and… slut rock?

You can check out Cochinas Locas on their Facebook. You can also watch live footage on YouTube to get a better idea of their face-blowing-off sound.

If you liked this episode, please rate us on iTunes. And as always, feel free to leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook.

I hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening!

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Show Notes

  • [1:40] The meaning and sound behind “Cochinas Locas”
  • [3:45] Women supporting each other and themselves, in addition to support from fans, friends and family
  • [6:00] A show at Tower Bar with all women (except one guy) in the bands: Wild Honey, Is/Is, Gloomsday
    • Gushing about Lori from Gloomsday, a multi-talented musician
  • Paloma’s Instagram @dazlicious: You’ll want to follow this for pics of eating pizza in underwear and general sassy attitude.
  • [14:15] Teenage Burrito – “No Reward” (Soundcloud)
  • [16:40] Combating being stuck in a “tiny little world” by using social media, meeting new musicians
  • [19:40] Hey Alvaro! Paloma would like to make you hers. (Listen to some of Piñata Protest’s songs here.)
  • [21:00] “Do it yourself” patch on Cochinas Locas vests and having matching band tattoos and clothes
  • [26:00] The difference between guys and gals when it comes to schmoozing and talking up your music
  • [28:00] Dedication to music, with Paloma’s dad as an example
  • [33:40] The Loons – “Miss Clara Regrets” (Live video on YouTube)
  • [39:00] “Raw” music and vocals, using Billie Holiday and Janis Joplin as examples; the acceptability of expressing emotion
  • [43:00] “Slut rock” and Paloma’s and my differences in viewing the term “slut”
  • [46:30] The Lumps – “Wake Up” (Bandcamp)
  • [49:00] Keeping old band shirts “just in case”
  • [50:45] Body positive inspiration: Tess Holliday (formerly Tess Munster) is a plus-size model who rocks it. Here’s her Instagram.

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs and to Paloma for agreeing to come into a hot bedroom to record.

Special thanks to: Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro–listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp; Greg Guiliano for his financial support; and Lety Beers for her help with audio editing and knowledge.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!

GRRL001: ukuleles and the New Jersey music scene featuring Devon Moore of Fun While You Wait

About the Episode

Devon Moore sings and plays ukulele for Fun While You Wait, a three-piece out of New Jersey. In our premiere episode, we nerd out about ukuleles, gush excessively about Devon’s song picks, and discuss earthquakes and the New Jersey music community.

You can check out Fun While You Wait on their Bandcamp, Twitter, and Facebook.

If you liked the episode, please subscribe to the podcast via RSS or iTunes, leave a comment, email me, follow me on Twitter, or like us on Facebook. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for listening!

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Show Notes

  • [1:00] The short history of Fun While You Wait (“I didn’t realize you guys had only been around for a year!”)
  • [6:30] /r/ukulele and realizing I’ve seen Devon’s videos before
  • [9:30] Fun While You Wait – “Mountain Song” (Bandcamp)
  • [13:30] Songwriting process and collaboration
  • [17:15] Ukulele propaganda: We talk about how we started playing the ukulele
  • [20:00] Supportive New Jersey music scene (including basement shows!) and why Devon chose local musicians for her song picks
  • [25:45] Centennials – “Oh My Molly” (Bandcamp)
    • Comments on the Centennials song was about the demo, not the re-mastered version played in the podcast.
    • Stay tuned for the official release of their re-mastered songs!
    • Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a video of acoustic Centennials set! But here, you can watch Devon covering Streetlight Manifesto instead.
  • [33:45] Ukulele propaganda part 2: Coming from a musical family and picking up the ukulele (so easy! so accessible!)
  • [37:45] Just a little bit of gushing about Cachabacha
  • [39:30] Cachabacha – “Pulmoncito” (Bandcamp)
  • [45:10] Digressing into whether I should cuss on the podcast or not and how difficult it is to keep a clean mouth around kids
  • [49:10] Side project: Relms

Other Notes & Thanks!

Thank you to all the artists who gave me permission to play their songs on Grrl on Grrl and to Greg of Wait Think Fast for helping get this podcast off the ground.

Special thanks to Sullen Ray who graciously allows me to use their song “Get Up Got It” as the Grrl on Grrl podcast intro and outro. Listen to and buy their album Blue Minor on Bandcamp.

And to all my friends who have been so supportive of this project, I love you!